How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

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You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

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Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

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I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

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Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Can you explain the difference between an ego, soul, mind, and consciousness?

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

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Kabir (a weaver)

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

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Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

then who is there to know what happens without?

Which race of women are the hottest?

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

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ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

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I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

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Raamaanand Jee, First House:

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

CONCLUSION:

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

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ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

NOW…

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

I am like a fish out of water,

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

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Sain (a barber)

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

Now here in this verse

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||